14:00 - 15:00
Published Jun 21 2004, 14:05 BST | By Claire Myfanwy
Welcome back to updates of all the action from the Big Brother House. I'll be taking you through this hour with 15 minute lite updates. Please send in your emails and I'll try to put as many of them up as I can14:00 - 14:15
Ahmed and Jason are sat on the decking talking about countries where smoking is banned in public places like pubs or restaurants. Ahmed says that in Ireland people are used to it now.
Marco is in the bath relaxing - presumably the jacuzzi is still out of order.
Inside the bedroom Stu is sat on the floor next to Shell's bed listening to her talking with Nadia and Victor. They discuss books, Victor getting annoyed at when people read in between the lines too much or making too much out of the colour of someone's dress having a certain meaning.
V: "People come out with spectacular theories. No! They just wanted to say she had a nice red dress!"
They are all missing having books to read - I can understand that, it would drive me totally nuts.
Victor starts singing Hanson - Stu always reminds me of them. Shell is still talking to Nadia about the number of cigarettes they have. Nadia is getting Michelle to ration hers for her, which Shell thinks is a great idea. Michelle is worried they will find her hiding places. Stu comes over to give Michelle his grey jumper as she mentioned she was cold - everyone says he is chivelrous. Michelle gets all motherly over what washing Stu has done, going to check around his bed for dirty items.14:15 - 14:30
It's definitely wash-day in the house, Vanessa, Shell, Stu and Michelle at least all doing their washing. The garden is covered in washing hung up to dry. Stu chats to Marco as he finishes his washing, about going out after they get out of the house.
Michelle, Nadia, Ahmed and Shell are all sat on the decking nattering.
Sorry - just missed a chuck - important phonecall.
Vanessa and Jay are talking in the living room with Victor. Van asks Stu if he's ever kissed a black girl - he hasn't. Victor has never kissed a white girl either. "Once you go black you never go back, innit" he laughs. Ahmed says that no-one is really white and no-one is really black, they shouldn't be segregating people like they are. Vanessa says you have to for forms that ask your race. Ash
: "What's with Stuart blowing all hot and cold on our poor Michelle? I feel sorry for the lass, he should just make his mind up either way."leanne
: "Loving bb5 except victor and jason (big headed self loving fools) and the cool updates from the DS team i especially like Neil wow he is gorgeous!"chas
: "is nadia's secret out?" I'm not sure....
Shell refuses to get into the conversation as she has a long-term boyfriend "and you [Vic] have a girlfriend AND a baby!".14:30 - 14:45
Victor takes something to Shell which recieves a "Vic, you're an angel - about time too!" response from Shell. Victor is in a happy jokey mood today. Jason is called to the DR. Another helicopter goes over - they say it's a police one.
Stuart is playing the game they made up "Fives" with Shell. They are using what looks like buttons presumably kept from the stuff given to them to make costumes last week.
Vanessa has a fear of helicopters, since a bad dream. She used to be scared of cars as a child as "I thought they could see me" so she'd run away from them. She talks about someone she knows who's a police reservist.Milky Way
: "do you think the HM will get to see any more football?" Only if they earn it.
Vanessa learnt to shoot when she was 15 yrs old. Victor looks impressed. He asks Nadia if she's ok, she looks a bit down. She says she's fine.lea
: "Leave michelle alone. she da best girl in da house,most girls will react like with their fella talkin to other girls wudn't you???u try being in the house boloxs" Sorry, did I say something nasty about her? I don't think so, but I apologise if I did.Glory
: "I think BB has a lot to answer for as regards the fight last week. They set the scene and sowed the seeds then recoiled in horror at the results. I suspect Emma having to go was partly due to pressure from the police. Have they learnt their lesson from the resulting furore? No! They confiscate Stus matress in an attemp to get him closer to Michelle and pressure him into having sex. This is fast becoming irresponsible telly and I am fast tiring of it and in fact haven't watched it for days, preferring to spend yesterday watching the edible Nigella Lawson instead. Far more interesting than BB in the wake of the fight......kisses to backdoor! xx"
Shell now plays Michelle at Fives. She doesn't really know how to play so Shell lets her go first as it's an advantage. Shell is saying she used to always wear only black but this year shes getting more into bright colours. Cath
: "Whats Dan doing" I've not seen him this hour.Yappy
: "Did you miss the HM's talking about Nadia's op?? There's a news article on the channel 4 site but I can't find anything about it on here!?!?" I didn't hear anything myself, but then we are only privy to the one feed rather than C4 who can see all parts of the house at all times.
Victor is setting another "what would you do" scenario for Stu, but all sound of it is dipped other than "a man comes up to you in a club and steps on your foot". He then asks what Nadia would do if someone spilt a glass of wine on her and then said "You're that fool from Big Brother". They would all get her chucked out. Vanessa had wine spilt on her during her wedding reception, ruining her dress. 14:45 - 15:00
Vanessa describes her wedding - she and her friends all ended up at a club after it. They had 4x4's for the cars, it was done on the beach. She doesn't like to do things "normally" she says. "It was a great day" she says.
Michelle and Stu now play Fives. More of Victor's scenarios. "What if you met a dashing fellow called Lance" gets responses of "You've been reading too many Mills and Boon!". He talks about wanting to call his baby boy Victor, but all his mates and his Mum said he couldn't as he'd bring him up as a clone of hisself. His friends sone looks like a mini-me of his mate, but his own son has a mixture of himself and the mother.
Ah, garden cam has a spider spinning a web on it!
A lot of Vic's mates have daughter's and they are now scared that Vic has a son who'll be after them when they get older. Vanessa talks about playing with nephews/neices. Vic says his son likes to wrap himself around his legs as he walks around. He would hate to have two children who fought. Vanessa says the parents need to explain "why" they mustn't do things, not just tell them things with no explanation.
Back to the scenarios. Vanessa says "the man who eventually marries me will be..... Ben Fogle!" Jason says "Vic, you come out with some strange scenarios man" but the others ask for more.
"A busty beauty walks through the door as a replacement right now..... grabs you by the hand and just carries on walking into the chambre...." sound is dipped, when it comes back everyone is laughing.
Someone asks Victor to get them a glass of water - he obliges, more scenario's continuing. His next one is about a cross-dresser who is actually a skinhead. Sound is dipped.Silverlady
: "Can anyone tell me was Vic the Bad given the opportunity to speak with Emma and did he reject the idea? Have seen no reason given for the meeting not taking place." We certainly haven't recieved any press releases about this.Maryjan
: "You can take a horse to water but can't force it to drink.I do wish Michelle would stop --with BB egging her on by swiping the matress--trying to force the guy into sex he so clearly does not wish to have..well on TV at any rate.It is quite explotative and too desperate for viewer numbers on BB side.Stop it.if it happens at least let it be by free will and choice.Who cares anyway once they leave she will probably never see him..unless she is going stalk outside as well..?"Mary Jane
: "When the next nominations are made, they should not include Victors and Jays choices as they have been blatantly breaking the rules...let them think their nominations have been included and then watch their faces when plans fails"Snozzwangler
: "I agree with Glory, it has turned into irresponsible telly (bet the BEEB wouldn't produce something like it!). I have stopped watching the show on Channel 4. I just keep up to date with your commentaries, which quite frankly, are more entertaining anyway."
With that I will love you and leave you. Tally was supposed to be on next, but is poorly - get well soon chicken ;). Neil is back later with more updates.